gods
serenity |
Getting Tweaked from
Exercising
Hi
Everyone, I have a question. I used meth for three years. I
seriously slowed down early this year and stopped completely in
September. I've recently started a low-carb diet and I'm doing
40 minutes on the elliptical trainer 4 times a week to combat
the 30 lbs I've gained. While I read somewhere
that meth metabolites are stored in your fat and then released
as your body utilizes that fat, I really didn't pay it any
attention. Now I'm paying it more attention because I'm
seriously getting tweaked from the diet and/or exercise and I
hate it. I hate the high and I hate the coming down more - which
is why I quit in the first place.
Does anyone know what I can do to either combat the high or
speed the excretion process up? I don't want to stop the dieting
or exercising because it's working. Plus, I don't want meth
stored in my fat ready to pop out at some unknown time in the
future to get me high as a kite, then lower than hell.
Any help you can give me would be very much appreciated. Thanks! |
Replies... |
Juliett55 |
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
I'm not
a specialist, but just heard that it is very normal to get the
high in the late recovery for a while. Exercise is great, keep
that up.
One thing you might have to check (I studied that in nutrition)
is what diet you are on. If you get to the point where your body
starts to break down fat to feed the brain you go in to ketosis.
That feels like you are actually getting high. I never used
drugs but went through this with my eating disorder. I know that
it is common with people on a protein diet or if you cut down
calories too much; your glycogen stores empty out and you go in
to ketosis. Your body's main job is to feed the brain. Brain can
only use glucose or ketones. I can see where that combined with
recovery from meth can make you feel this way.
Advice always: take at easy. Diet and exercise is good, but not
severe.
Just a little share of my scientific background knowledge, hope
it helps. |
Venus
Jones69 |
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
I am
not a scientist but I'm pretty sure the high that you're getting
is as an exercise high, not from meth stored in fat being
released into your system. When you exercise, it releases
endorphins which give you a natural high. As a former user, you
may be more sensitive to these highs and lows that the
endorphins bring since they eventually wear off a few hours
after exercise and make you feel like you're crashing. That's
why some people develop an "exercise addiction" - they're
addicted to the endorphin rush they receive from exercise.
Don't let that scare you, though - you're doing an amazing thing
- keep it up. I used every day for over five years and doing
yoga literally saved me from going back to meth after I quit.
Now, after nearly four years, I still practice five days a week
and I am still meth free!!
Congratulations!! |
sunshine
skye |
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
Hi S,
I went through the same thing. I'm pretty sure it's the meth
stored in your fat that you're releasing.
If you have access to a sauna that's a great way to speed up the
process. Otherwise, I'd just grit my teeth and know that once
you get through it you won't ever have to do it again.
Take care. |
gods
serenity |
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
Thanks
for the replies everyone. I appreciate the advice. I've low
carbed and exercised in the past so I don't think it's from
either one of those. It's not lasting hours. It's lasting days.
Like getting up at 7 am on Monday, exercising sometime that day,
going to bed at 3 am on Tuesday, tossing and turning until 5:30
am, then getting back up and finally collapsing at 1 am on
Wednesday. It reminded me of hitting a bowl just a couple of
times which doesn't give you a lot of energy but it's still
enough to mess up your sleep but then you can still get up later
and go about your day like normal - normal for a tweaker anyway.
I haven't exercised in a few days, primarily because I'm lazy
but I also don't want to feel that way again. Starting tomorrow
I'll start using the sauna afterwards and see if that helps any. |
deeeCA |
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
That is
very strange... I would doubt that it's meth that was stored in
the fat cells. Ketosis sounds more like it - or maybe just the
natural energy high "endorphins" that people experience when
they push their bodies aerobically. Loraura probably would know
more.. |
gods
serenity |
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
here's
part of an article summary i found:
Summary of a Presentation Made to the American Academy of
Environmental Medicine
Presented by David R. Root, MD., 1989 <
Dr. David Root is a physician specializing in occupational
medicine with a private practice in Sacramento. California. He
has treated numerous patients who had accumulated lipophilic
chemicals through occupational exposure, using the method of
detoxification developed by Hub-bard. In the course of his work,
he has also treated approximately 75 drug abusers with this
detoxification program. He recently reported the results of a
follow-up study of these drug abuse patients at the annual
meeting of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine.
The long-term success rate for drug and alcohol rehabilitation
programs is not extremely high. Abstinence from drugs for 2
years after undergoing rehabilitation treatment by 30% of the
patients is considered quite acceptable. This means that 70% of
the patients are not succeeding in staying off of drugs. Such a
recidivism rate is cause for deep concern. One hypothesis is
that a hidden cause of recidivism amongst drug abusers is the
presence in their bodies of residual levels of drugs and their
metabolites. This led to the proposition that removing these
compounds from the body would assist in the recovery of the drug
abuser.
One program documented to reduce levels of fat-stored
xenobiotics is the detoxification method developed by
Hubbard. This program was originally developed to assist in the
recovery of drug abusers. The program aims to mobilize and
eliminate fat-stored xenobiotics. We have treated drug abusers
using this detoxification procedure as the chief component of a
drug rehabilitation program.
here's the definition for xebobiotics:
A xenobiotic is a chemical which is found in an organism but
which is not normally produced or expected to be present in it.
It can also cover substances which are present in much higher
concentrations than are usual.
For example, drugs such as antibiotics are human xenobiotics
because the human body does not produce them itself nor would
they be expected to be present as part of a normal diet.
However, the term is usually used in the context of pollutants
such as dioxins and polychlorinated biphenyls and their effect
on the biota. Natural compounds can also become xenobiotics if
they are taken up by another organism (eg uptake of natural
hormones excreted from humans by fish downstream of sewage
treatment plant outfalls).
The body gets rid of xenobiotics by xenobiotic metabolism. This
consists of the deactivation and the secretion of xenobiotics,
and happens mostly at the liver. Secretion routes are urine,
feces, breath and sweat. Hepatic enzymes are responsible for
the metabolism of xenobiotics, by first activating them
(oxidation, reduction, hydrolysis and/or hydration of the
xenobiotic) and then conjugating the active secondary metabolite
with glucuronic or sulphuric acid, or glutathione, followed by
excretion in bile or urine. |
gods
serenity |
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
From
John A Logan College presentation on meth:
Storage and Metabolism in the Body
When a chemical enter your body, it may be immediately
metabolized, or it may be metabolized slowly. Metabolisis
occurs when the chemical structure of a compound is changed in
the body. Products of metabolism are called metabolites. Metabolites may be more harmful than the chemical itself. Blood
and urine tests for chemical exposure actually test for the
presence of the chemical and/or its metabolites.
Physiologically Clearing Chemicals
Once chemicals are metabolized, they are either excreted or
stored. Excretion can occur through urine, feces, breath or
perspiration. Storage can occur in your liver or bones, and the
chemicals can be slowly released back into the body. Water-soluble chemicals are often excreted, and fat-soluble
chemicals are often stored. |
